Because we’ve nothing better to do

Our lovely senate (co-led gleefully by asshat California senator Diane Feinstein — keep this in mind next time she claims to have a clue) is voting today on a constitutional amendment to allow congress to place arbitrary limits on the first amendment. Yeah, it’s the flag burning amendment.

I’ve got a certain cognitive dissonance about this whole thing. I mean, they can’t really be doin this, can they? They aren’t really valuing a symbol above what that symbol represents, are they? Seriously.

Anyway, instead of the usual hand-wringing about how stupid our congress is — because I think we all already know by now — I propose a game: Who can make the best claim about how flag burning is destroying America, handing the nation over to the terrorists, killing the baby jesus or whatever the flag burning people will have you believe the problem is?

My favorite so far comes from Erich:

Lack of respect for the flag is what causes “disgraceful” newspapers to release details of our covert surveillance plans.

Which is at least as good as anything I’ve heard out of the pro-first-amendment-killing crowd.

The ACLU has a handy lookup application that will let you call your senator and let them know how you feel.

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6 responses to “Because we’ve nothing better to do”

  1. robert
    robert
    June 26, 2006 at 1:02 pm |

    Clearly the patriotic solution to the problem would be to torture anyone who burns the flag in a secret prison. What do we need an amendment for? Everyone knows the Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper!

  2. Corey
    June 26, 2006 at 4:00 pm |

    Well, we could only do that if there was a presidential signing order allowing as much. Good thing the executive branch has assumed supreme power over all the other branches of government. Otherwise we wouldn’t have any way to torture flag burners, and they’d run completely amok!

  3. nlo
    nlo
    June 27, 2006 at 8:23 am |

    Every time a flag is burned, a puppy dies. The puppies! think of the puppies!

    In seriousness, any current law banning flag burning wouldn’t pass constitutional muster. So they have to amend the constitution in order to defeat the “activist courts” and protect what the people “really want.” The same argument is used in favor of amending the constitution to ban gay marriage. Fortunately the framers anticipated this sort of silliness (although perhaps not specifically) and made amending the constitution a supermajoritarian process.

  4. nlo
    nlo
    June 27, 2006 at 8:31 am |

    well, while we’re on the subject, I have an argument against the amendment too. If amending the constitution is a supermajoritarian process, we should only do it for issues that the country is of a like mind about. Something that is this contentious is not an appropriate subject for an amendment.

  5. Smitty
    June 28, 2006 at 5:24 pm |

    For extry bonus points take this star-spangled quiz. (INSIDE: When you’re <i>supposed</i> to burn the flag.)

    http://www.channelone.com/news/exchange/news/2004/06/03/se_flag/

  6. nlo
    nlo
    June 29, 2006 at 9:44 am |

    Ooh, I got 100%! But only because I just found out recently that

    SPOILER*

    you can only dispose of a worn out flag by burning it.

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Because we’ve nothing better to do

Our lovely senate (co-led gleefully by asshat California senator Diane Feinstein — keep this in mind next time she claims to have a clue) is voting today on a constitutional amendment to allow congress to place arbitrary limits on the first amendment. Yeah, it’s the flag burning amendment.

I’ve got a certain cognitive dissonance about this whole thing. I mean, they can’t really be doin this, can they? They aren’t really valuing a symbol above what that symbol represents, are they? Seriously.

Anyway, instead of the usual hand-wringing about how stupid our congress is — because I think we all already know by now — I propose a game: Who can make the best claim about how flag burning is destroying America, handing the nation over to the terrorists, killing the baby jesus or whatever the flag burning people will have you believe the problem is?

My favorite so far comes from Erich:

Lack of respect for the flag is what causes “disgraceful” newspapers to release details of our covert surveillance plans.

Which is at least as good as anything I’ve heard out of the pro-first-amendment-killing crowd.

The ACLU has a handy lookup application that will let you call your senator and let them know how you feel.

Posted in | | 6 Responses

6 responses to “Because we’ve nothing better to do”

  1. robert
    robert
    June 26, 2006 at 1:02 pm |

    Clearly the patriotic solution to the problem would be to torture anyone who burns the flag in a secret prison. What do we need an amendment for? Everyone knows the Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper!

  2. Corey
    June 26, 2006 at 4:00 pm |

    Well, we could only do that if there was a presidential signing order allowing as much. Good thing the executive branch has assumed supreme power over all the other branches of government. Otherwise we wouldn’t have any way to torture flag burners, and they’d run completely amok!

  3. nlo
    nlo
    June 27, 2006 at 8:23 am |

    Every time a flag is burned, a puppy dies. The puppies! think of the puppies!

    In seriousness, any current law banning flag burning wouldn’t pass constitutional muster. So they have to amend the constitution in order to defeat the “activist courts” and protect what the people “really want.” The same argument is used in favor of amending the constitution to ban gay marriage. Fortunately the framers anticipated this sort of silliness (although perhaps not specifically) and made amending the constitution a supermajoritarian process.

  4. nlo
    nlo
    June 27, 2006 at 8:31 am |

    well, while we’re on the subject, I have an argument against the amendment too. If amending the constitution is a supermajoritarian process, we should only do it for issues that the country is of a like mind about. Something that is this contentious is not an appropriate subject for an amendment.

  5. Smitty
    June 28, 2006 at 5:24 pm |

    For extry bonus points take this star-spangled quiz. (INSIDE: When you’re <i>supposed</i> to burn the flag.)

    http://www.channelone.com/news/exchange/news/2004/06/03/se_flag/

  6. nlo
    nlo
    June 29, 2006 at 9:44 am |

    Ooh, I got 100%! But only because I just found out recently that

    SPOILER*

    you can only dispose of a worn out flag by burning it.

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