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	<title>Comments on: Pasadena loves cycling.  No, wait: it doesn&#8217;t!</title>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.obfuscated.org/2007/07/31/pasadena-loves-cycling-no-wait-it-doesnt/#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 10:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh please! As a rider at the bowl, who if lucky may someday be able to hang more than on lap with the "pack", I have to say that the runners and roller bladers with iPods drowning out the world around them, mommies with strollers and on cell phones, people with long leashed dogs,  and un controlled children with wheeled vehicles are the biggest danger down there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even when riding by myself (which I do most of the time), I am continualy confronted by these types of folks aimlessly wandering out into th traffic lane or feeling it is their "right" to occupy a portion of the trafic lane which is legaly designated under state law for cyclists.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then there is always the pleasant task of looking out for the guys from "Rusnak" that feel the bowl is a good place to go show a test rdiving customer how fast the car can go (during peak recreational hours)...and don't get me started on the Linda Vista residents that use the bowls as a "speedy shortcut".  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Granted it the pack can be intimidating for the uninitiated, onad the timid, but when I am riding around or walking at the bowl, the "pack" is the least of my concerns...at least they pay attention, focus and a have a purpose, which is more than the majority of folks down there have.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please! As a rider at the bowl, who if lucky may someday be able to hang more than on lap with the &#8220;pack&#8221;, I have to say that the runners and roller bladers with iPods drowning out the world around them, mommies with strollers and on cell phones, people with long leashed dogs,  and un controlled children with wheeled vehicles are the biggest danger down there.</p>

<p>Even when riding by myself (which I do most of the time), I am continualy confronted by these types of folks aimlessly wandering out into th traffic lane or feeling it is their &#8220;right&#8221; to occupy a portion of the trafic lane which is legaly designated under state law for cyclists.</p>

<p>Then there is always the pleasant task of looking out for the guys from &#8220;Rusnak&#8221; that feel the bowl is a good place to go show a test rdiving customer how fast the car can go (during peak recreational hours)&#8230;and don&#8217;t get me started on the Linda Vista residents that use the bowls as a &#8220;speedy shortcut&#8221;.  </p>

<p>Granted it the pack can be intimidating for the uninitiated, onad the timid, but when I am riding around or walking at the bowl, the &#8220;pack&#8221; is the least of my concerns&#8230;at least they pay attention, focus and a have a purpose, which is more than the majority of folks down there have.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cp</title>
		<link>http://www.obfuscated.org/2007/07/31/pasadena-loves-cycling-no-wait-it-doesnt/#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator>cp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There's one in Carson.  Although that's not nearly as good as doing the same thing on the roads.  Where's the fun if you can't tip over in to ten other people and spend the next two weeks picking asphalt out of your back side?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one in Carson.  Although that&#8217;s not nearly as good as doing the same thing on the roads.  Where&#8217;s the fun if you can&#8217;t tip over in to ten other people and spend the next two weeks picking asphalt out of your back side?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: SLS</title>
		<link>http://www.obfuscated.org/2007/07/31/pasadena-loves-cycling-no-wait-it-doesnt/#comment-887</link>
		<dc:creator>SLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A velodrome!  That's what the Dena needs.  A velodrome!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velodrome&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A velodrome!  That&#8217;s what the Dena needs.  A velodrome!</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velodrome" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velodrome</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: cp</title>
		<link>http://www.obfuscated.org/2007/07/31/pasadena-loves-cycling-no-wait-it-doesnt/#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator>cp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh come on, cyclists don't do steroids.  The blood dope.  (Or use synthetic testosterone.)  &lt;em&gt;Totally&lt;/em&gt; different.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know that they're totally unpopular and for good reason, but is putting the Pasadena PD on anybody who happens to ride out of single file really a great idea?  That's from time to time pretty well anybody who rides bikes in groups larger than two people.  Sure, it gets an unpopular crowd away from the Rose Bowl, but it seems like it'd do more harm than it could possibly do good.  The best answer is something that lets the peleton do their thing without getting in everybody's face while avoiding putting a bunch of silly ordinances on the books.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on, cyclists don&#8217;t do steroids.  The blood dope.  (Or use synthetic testosterone.)  <em>Totally</em> different.</p>

<p>I know that they&#8217;re totally unpopular and for good reason, but is putting the Pasadena PD on anybody who happens to ride out of single file really a great idea?  That&#8217;s from time to time pretty well anybody who rides bikes in groups larger than two people.  Sure, it gets an unpopular crowd away from the Rose Bowl, but it seems like it&#8217;d do more harm than it could possibly do good.  The best answer is something that lets the peleton do their thing without getting in everybody&#8217;s face while avoiding putting a bunch of silly ordinances on the books.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Heidi</title>
		<link>http://www.obfuscated.org/2007/07/31/pasadena-loves-cycling-no-wait-it-doesnt/#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>Heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry Corey, I love biking myself and I'm all about promoting biking to the general populace, but I have no pity whatsoever on that evil lot that we runners call "The Pack".  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They're all hopped up with the 'roid rage, they yell at their own like a pack of wild dingoes AND especially any pedestrian who strays a bit too close to the line that they themselves are edging, and are a menace to cars and even other bicyclists who might be more novice than they are.  They piss me off greatly, to the point where I absolutely yell at them when they take on some poor unsuspecting passerby.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I've had the "pleasure" of enjoying their company for the last 4 - 5 years while I've been running with the Idealab crew down there.  It's high time someone did something about those guys.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Corey, I love biking myself and I&#8217;m all about promoting biking to the general populace, but I have no pity whatsoever on that evil lot that we runners call &#8220;The Pack&#8221;.  </p>

<p>They&#8217;re all hopped up with the &#8216;roid rage, they yell at their own like a pack of wild dingoes AND especially any pedestrian who strays a bit too close to the line that they themselves are edging, and are a menace to cars and even other bicyclists who might be more novice than they are.  They piss me off greatly, to the point where I absolutely yell at them when they take on some poor unsuspecting passerby.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve had the &#8220;pleasure&#8221; of enjoying their company for the last 4 - 5 years while I&#8217;ve been running with the Idealab crew down there.  It&#8217;s high time someone did something about those guys.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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